Anyone who comes at me, physical threat or otherwise. Anyone for as long as it takes to make Bob and everyone who has the balls to try to tell me what to do will realize any hope of winning is crushed. Let them send their best, we'll see who comes out on top. That's the way the world works.
[There's your brother's handiwork.]
You're saying that I can indebt them by pinning beasts? Sus.
[...Except.]
No. You're saying I can indebt the local families. That's devious. What is it you do back in your world?
I'm a flex. Though, tank's not a bad way to put it. I hold the lives of the people I'm fighting in my hands, direct the flow of battle, and decide if the people fighting with me are worth my effort. I always saw myself more glass canon dps, but tank could work.
I assume that method has gotten you where you are today and life was full of happiness for you because of it up until you arrived here. But if it wasn't, you might want to revise what a grand plan it is. And I'm willing to bet this coin I found that given how you talk about heros and society, that life wasn't so sweet and cozy.
Six thousand plus years of written human history says the world works through the power of cooperation, innovation and beheading dictators. Somehow all those power mongers never seem to actually keep their power long and wind up dead in a gutter, long, long before Heros were a comic book fantasy.
Tanks protect the party so the party can do THEIR jobs without getting their faces ripped off. A tank that doesn't do that, is a shit tank and needs to be kicked from the dungeon. A DPS that can't work with the party, keep threat on the tank, and keep things from attacking the healer so the healer can heal is a shit DPS and needs to be kicked from the dungeon.
The only ones who get a god complex, who direct where and when things happen, is the healer. They are the MVP. They decide who lives and who dies. You don't have a healer, you don't have a party.
Life is never sweet and cozy. And yeah, I was content at times. I had people with like minded aspirations and that's all I needed. So you'd lose that bet. Six thousand years of written human history can kiss my ass and so can any world betting on heroes or not to save it. That's as good as both those ideals are worth.
If I end up dead in a gutter? I wasn't strong enough.
I'm my own healer, what does that make me? MVP.
For someone who doesn't know who they're talking about, you sure like talking about it.
You don't get to change what you already wrote now, Shigaraki.
Friends aren't a weakness. Or "allies", if you're as allergic to that word as you are to hero. Humans are pack animals, every sapient species I've encountered is. And if you were as secure in your solitude as you're trying to act, you'd be hermiting it up in the woods, not texting me or anyone else. Or relying on others for housing, clothing, and so on.
Why are you trying to make whether or not you're lonely a matter of what I do or don't like? Who are you trying to convince?
As silly as I'm sure you think it is, I want people to have better lives than what they already have.
And everything you've ever written me tells me you're miserable, and have had a very unhappy life, trying to make up for it with power plays and acts of Jaded and Disaffected.
Call it the hero fan in me, but I want to change that, even if it's just in a small way. Even if it's just finding a way to get you to see alternate paths to whatever your goal is, since the one you currently have seems a lot like it does you no good at all. And leaves me wondering who it does do good for.
[The small delay is fine, he wasn't going to answer, but the second text does save the life of the beast because he checks it instead of being done with this stupid bullshit being thrown at him.]
I'm not miserable.
[There's small sounds of wet squelching because he's holding down this thing until the 'authorities' get there.]
You know nothing about me, nothing about who I am or what I want from my life. I am the apex predator of my world, I got to where I am because of how I am and I think it's worked just fine for me toward my goals. There is no "better life" to have. There is no "better life" to make. There is only firesale at this point. Us or them. That doesn't change just because the world does.
Do you think that making things up and then threatening me over it is going to make me suddenly believe you? Or stop poking holes in a terribly flawed narrative?
It's not a weakness to have friends, or to be lonely, or to need people. It's part of being human, or your definition of human from earlier for non-human sapients. And you may not know it yet because you may not have experienced it yet, but those friends and allies can be a source of greater power than whatever it is nature's handed you that you feel you need to constantly brag about. Combine the two, you may actually get closer to the unstoppable being you like to pretend you are.
You don't have to admit any of it to me. I'm not looking for some public Come To Jesus hallelujah moment. In the end it's your life, but that life CAN get better. You're just so mired in it that you can't see it.
What do you have to lose, really?
Think about it.
From all I've told you, all my suggestions, what would taking my advice cost you?
And then if I make a move to prove myself, I'm back to villain. Hunted to be tutted by snot nosed brats or people who think they know better for me what's best for me? What it costs me is the respect of the people who you're telling me I need.
[Which, again is telling in itself.]
I already didn't kill the stupid bastard I asked about. I wanted to know your opinion if it should live or die. I told you it had consequences, your answer, and that's what you chose. You chose to let it live.
You said you needed them. I merely didn't let you walk back what you wrote. :)
Friends want each other to be happy. I think you know that on some level. I think you also know that your friends would likely want to go with you instead of shun you. Nobody's asked you to go around loving heros, distributing flowers and making peace with your enemies, and yet you act like I have. Understand that I know that's never going to happen, and I'm not interested in trying to get you to.
You deserve better. And it doesn't mean destroying everything you are or everything you want. But there ARE better ways to get there, without them you'll just wind up how I did, locked up and with someone else thinking they have the right to make all your decisions for you.
If you valued my opinion on the life of a beast because it was once a person, value my opinion on the life of you because you're still a person.
I could rationalize something more noble sounding, or cite altruism as being a core tenant of our species' instincts, but while all of it might be true, I want to, and so I do.
Alright. You can care, I can't say I'm going to give much a damn but go for it. That includes realizing I'm not a nice person, never have been and never will be. If you want to care, you'll have to care for that, too.
I told you before, I make those judgments for myself. And in spite of the rumors and claims, I'm still here bothering you whenever you text me.
It can be difficult, even attempting to trust someone. But let's try it out and see where it gets us. It's not like being dead sticks here, so what's the worst that can happen?
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Date: 2023-03-23 06:22 pm (UTC)[There's your brother's handiwork.]
You're saying that I can indebt them by pinning beasts? Sus.
[...Except.]
No. You're saying I can indebt the local families. That's devious. What is it you do back in your world?
I'm a flex. Though, tank's not a bad way to put it. I hold the lives of the people I'm fighting in my hands, direct the flow of battle, and decide if the people fighting with me are worth my effort. I always saw myself more glass canon dps, but tank could work.
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Date: 2023-03-23 06:59 pm (UTC)Six thousand plus years of written human history says the world works through the power of cooperation, innovation and beheading dictators. Somehow all those power mongers never seem to actually keep their power long and wind up dead in a gutter, long, long before Heros were a comic book fantasy.
Tanks protect the party so the party can do THEIR jobs without getting their faces ripped off. A tank that doesn't do that, is a shit tank and needs to be kicked from the dungeon. A DPS that can't work with the party, keep threat on the tank, and keep things from attacking the healer so the healer can heal is a shit DPS and needs to be kicked from the dungeon.
The only ones who get a god complex, who direct where and when things happen, is the healer. They are the MVP. They decide who lives and who dies. You don't have a healer, you don't have a party.
You need to play less FPS and more MMOs.
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Date: 2023-03-23 09:54 pm (UTC)If I end up dead in a gutter? I wasn't strong enough.
I'm my own healer, what does that make me? MVP.
For someone who doesn't know who they're talking about, you sure like talking about it.
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Date: 2023-03-23 10:25 pm (UTC)Sounds lonely.
no subject
Date: 2023-03-23 10:36 pm (UTC)Not at all.
If you're trying to get at me being alone and lonely because I choose something you don't like? Good luck.
What's the difference to you what I do or don't do?
1/2
Date: 2023-03-23 10:47 pm (UTC)Friends aren't a weakness. Or "allies", if you're as allergic to that word as you are to hero. Humans are pack animals, every sapient species I've encountered is. And if you were as secure in your solitude as you're trying to act, you'd be hermiting it up in the woods, not texting me or anyone else. Or relying on others for housing, clothing, and so on.
Why are you trying to make whether or not you're lonely a matter of what I do or don't like? Who are you trying to convince?
2/2, after a short delay:
Date: 2023-03-23 10:53 pm (UTC)And everything you've ever written me tells me you're miserable, and have had a very unhappy life, trying to make up for it with power plays and acts of Jaded and Disaffected.
Call it the hero fan in me, but I want to change that, even if it's just in a small way. Even if it's just finding a way to get you to see alternate paths to whatever your goal is, since the one you currently have seems a lot like it does you no good at all. And leaves me wondering who it does do good for.
That 'better life' is for everyone.
Don't you deserve it? I think so.
Voice;
Date: 2023-03-24 07:43 pm (UTC)I'm not miserable.
[There's small sounds of wet squelching because he's holding down this thing until the 'authorities' get there.]
You know nothing about me, nothing about who I am or what I want from my life. I am the apex predator of my world, I got to where I am because of how I am and I think it's worked just fine for me toward my goals. There is no "better life" to have. There is no "better life" to make. There is only firesale at this point. Us or them. That doesn't change just because the world does.
Not Voice
Date: 2023-03-24 07:57 pm (UTC)Evidence based on your own writing, in multiple posts, with multiple people, suggest strongly otherwise.
no subject
Date: 2023-03-24 08:08 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2023-03-24 08:19 pm (UTC)It's not a weakness to have friends, or to be lonely, or to need people. It's part of being human, or your definition of human from earlier for non-human sapients. And you may not know it yet because you may not have experienced it yet, but those friends and allies can be a source of greater power than whatever it is nature's handed you that you feel you need to constantly brag about. Combine the two, you may actually get closer to the unstoppable being you like to pretend you are.
You don't have to admit any of it to me. I'm not looking for some public Come To Jesus hallelujah moment. In the end it's your life, but that life CAN get better. You're just so mired in it that you can't see it.
What do you have to lose, really?
Think about it.
From all I've told you, all my suggestions, what would taking my advice cost you?
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Date: 2023-03-24 11:20 pm (UTC)[Which, again is telling in itself.]
I already didn't kill the stupid bastard I asked about. I wanted to know your opinion if it should live or die. I told you it had consequences, your answer, and that's what you chose. You chose to let it live.
Good enough?
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Date: 2023-03-24 11:34 pm (UTC)Friends want each other to be happy. I think you know that on some level. I think you also know that your friends would likely want to go with you instead of shun you. Nobody's asked you to go around loving heros, distributing flowers and making peace with your enemies, and yet you act like I have. Understand that I know that's never going to happen, and I'm not interested in trying to get you to.
You deserve better. And it doesn't mean destroying everything you are or everything you want. But there ARE better ways to get there, without them you'll just wind up how I did, locked up and with someone else thinking they have the right to make all your decisions for you.
If you valued my opinion on the life of a beast because it was once a person, value my opinion on the life of you because you're still a person.
no subject
Date: 2023-03-26 12:31 am (UTC)I'm going to ask you this one question:
Why do you care?
no subject
Date: 2023-03-26 02:10 pm (UTC)I could rationalize something more noble sounding, or cite altruism as being a core tenant of our species' instincts, but while all of it might be true, I want to, and so I do.
no subject
Date: 2023-03-27 12:54 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2023-03-31 03:54 pm (UTC)It can be difficult, even attempting to trust someone. But let's try it out and see where it gets us. It's not like being dead sticks here, so what's the worst that can happen?
:D